Comments on: PageRank Flow, Comment Feeds in Supplementals, NoFollow & robots.txt – bifsniff.com http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/ Search Engine Optimisation Ireland Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:03:56 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1709 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:37:00 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1709 @Donncha – Fatal error: Unknown function: get_post_comments_feed_link() in /home/cardinal/public_html/wp-content/themes/classic/comments.php on line 26

Seems this might be a new function? I’m on 2.1.3 but will probably update to 2.2 now.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1702 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:24:25 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1702 Michele

Yep, just the comment feeds. You’d want to be mad to try to remove the comments (even if you could, which you cant without removing the post).

All I know is that you take a look in the supplemental index and you’ll regularly find the comment feeds in there. Makes sense as they have very little linkage to them and are highly duplicitous of the page they come from.

Rgds
Richard

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By: Michelehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1701 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:14:22 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1701 Richard

The feed maybe, but the comments themselves are golddust

Michele

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1704 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:05:43 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1704 @Donncha – WP bastardised your html – can you repost pls? (can you <pre> it? [Edit - that doesn't work either]

I read that John Chow story you linked to – the only thing there was that he had gone a little strong with his robots.txt and dissalowed most of his site. I think there’s definitely value in removing the comments feed from the index though.

Rgds
Richard

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By: Michelehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1708 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:20:09 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1708 Donncha

Ah.
That makes more sense

Michele

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By: Donncha O Caoimhhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1707 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:17:42 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1707 Michele – I mean to nofollow the /trackback/ link.

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By: Michelehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1706 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:16:05 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1706 Donncha

I don’t like the idea of disallowing trackbacks and adding nofollow. It does away with the entire “interconnected web” concept in my mind, which is why I am so happy with the way MT handles it.

Michele – who is trying to migrate away from WordPress

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By: Donncha O Caoimhhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1705 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:07:36 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1705 Edit your comments.php or single.php and change the

comments_rss_link( 'feed' )

to

<a rel='nofollow' href='<?php echo get_post_comments_feed_link() ?>'>feed</a>

The text ‘feed’ can be whatever you desire of course.

Hint – if there’s a WP template tag that prints something, then chances are there’s a get_* function that gets that value first :)

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1703 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:03:24 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1703 Hey Donncha

What does get_post_comments_feed_link() do? And does this function need to be updated to include a rel=”nofollow” attribute?

TBH you could actually give these links a rel=”noindex” so that the bots would still crawl your RSS feeds, just never actually index them. It’s a bit of a toss-up though.

Cheers for contributing.
Rgds
Richard

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By: Donncha O Caoimhhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1700 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:54:36 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1700 I almost forgot, instead of modifying a core WP file, change your theme to call get_post_comments_feed_link() instead of comments_rss_link().

Next time you upgrade WordPress you won’t have to worry about losing your valuable custom changes!

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By: Donncha O Caoimhhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1699 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:50:29 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1699 You should nofollow your trackback links too. I hadn’t thought of this and I had use robots.txt to disallow access to those URLs.
On the other hand, read through http://www.seorefugee.com/seoblog/2007/06/04/john-chow-creates-seo-experts/ to cast some doubt on the benefits of excluding these pages.

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By: frankphttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1711 Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:45:55 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1711 Hats off Richard,
Look forward to reading that post!

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1716 Sat, 09 Jun 2007 08:10:24 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1716 Hi Michele

I actually dug into the WordPress Codex and have a fix for the .htaccess problem – extremely simple.

I have a post queued that explains it.

Rgds
Richard

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By: Michelehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1710 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:39:10 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1710 Richard

If you change the permissions on the .htaccess so that Apache can’t write to it your problems will go away :)

Michele

PS: Nice article :)

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1715 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:30:56 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1715 @Martina – hi and thanks.

@Frank – would you believe that I only re-uploaded my .htaccess file yesterday and the bloody thing has been overwritten today. I’m gonna find what it is that is rewriting the file if it’s the last thing I do [today :)]. Hope there is something of value to you above.

Rgds to both
Richard

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By: frankphttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1714 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:22:33 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1714 ps I never really got to the bottom of why Wp rewrited the htaccess file, but I did discover a plugin that looks after the canonical issue, it resolves to a no www:
http://photomatt.net/2006/06/13/wordpress-no-www/

I think this would probably resolve any issues, but I don’t think I have tried it on a site experiencin the issue yet – I really wanted to figure out what was causing WP to rewrite the file when it really shouldn’t be, but after a certain amount of investigation I got confounded by it!

On BifSniff the htaccess file is simply not writable so it never had that issue, I update the htaccess file by hand. But as you know I have had the issue of WP rewriting the htaccess file on other sites!

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By: frankphttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1713 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:18:26 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1713 Thanks Richard,
that’s a very good point about the Secret Page, and also the Authors page, both password protected. Now, I must find out how to add no-follow to specific pages withing WordPress :D

It might be an interesting experiment to exclude the comment feeds from being indexed and see what impact it might have.

Thanks again for taking this time to go through the site, much appreciated. It’s always good to have fresh eyes on something!

Particularly appreciated as I realise how busy you’ve been of late!

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By: Martina Skellyhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1712 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:04:38 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1712 Another great article Richard!

Regards,
Martina

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