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	<title>Comments on: PageRank Flow, Comment Feeds in Supplementals, NoFollow &amp; robots.txt &#8211; bifsniff.com</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donncha - Fatal error: Unknown function: get_post_comments_feed_link() in /home/cardinal/public_html/wp-content/themes/classic/comments.php on line 26

Seems this might be a new function? I&#039;m on 2.1.3 but will probably update to 2.2 now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donncha &#8211; Fatal error: Unknown function: get_post_comments_feed_link() in /home/cardinal/public_html/wp-content/themes/classic/comments.php on line 26</p>
<p>Seems this might be a new function? I&#8217;m on 2.1.3 but will probably update to 2.2 now.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1702</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele

Yep, just the comment feeds. You&#039;d want to be mad to try to remove the comments (even if you could, which you cant without removing the post).

All I know is that you take a look in the supplemental index and you&#039;ll regularly find the comment feeds in there. Makes sense as they have very little linkage to them and are highly duplicitous of the page they come from.

Rgds
Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele</p>
<p>Yep, just the comment feeds. You&#8217;d want to be mad to try to remove the comments (even if you could, which you cant without removing the post).</p>
<p>All I know is that you take a look in the supplemental index and you&#8217;ll regularly find the comment feeds in there. Makes sense as they have very little linkage to them and are highly duplicitous of the page they come from.</p>
<p>Rgds<br />
Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1701</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard

The feed maybe, but the comments themselves are golddust

Michele</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard</p>
<p>The feed maybe, but the comments themselves are golddust</p>
<p>Michele</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1704</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donncha - WP bastardised your html - can you repost pls? (can you &lt;code&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;/code&gt; it? [Edit - that doesn&#039;t work either]

I read that John Chow story you linked to - the only thing there was that he had gone a little strong with his robots.txt and dissalowed most of his site. I think there&#039;s definitely value in removing the comments feed from the index though.

Rgds
Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donncha &#8211; WP bastardised your html &#8211; can you repost pls? (can you <code>&lt;pre&gt;</code> it? [Edit - that doesn't work either]</p>
<p>I read that John Chow story you linked to &#8211; the only thing there was that he had gone a little strong with his robots.txt and dissalowed most of his site. I think there&#8217;s definitely value in removing the comments feed from the index though.</p>
<p>Rgds<br />
Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1708</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donncha

Ah.
That makes more sense

Michele</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donncha</p>
<p>Ah.<br />
That makes more sense</p>
<p>Michele</p>
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		<title>By: Donncha O Caoimh</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1707</link>
		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele - I mean to nofollow the /trackback/ link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele &#8211; I mean to nofollow the /trackback/ link.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donncha

I don&#039;t like the idea of disallowing trackbacks and adding nofollow. It does away with the entire &quot;interconnected web&quot; concept in my mind, which is why I am so happy with the way MT handles it.

Michele - who is trying to migrate away from Wordpress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donncha</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of disallowing trackbacks and adding nofollow. It does away with the entire &#8220;interconnected web&#8221; concept in my mind, which is why I am so happy with the way MT handles it.</p>
<p>Michele &#8211; who is trying to migrate away from Wordpress</p>
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		<title>By: Donncha O Caoimh</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1705</link>
		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edit your comments.php or single.php and change the
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;code&gt;comments_rss_link( &#039;feed&#039; )&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
to
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;code&gt;&lt;a rel=&#039;nofollow&#039; href=&#039;&lt;?php echo get_post_comments_feed_link() ?&gt;&#039;&gt;feed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The text ‘feed’ can be whatever you desire of course.

Hint - if there&#039;s a WP template tag that prints something, then chances are there&#039;s a get_* function that gets that value first :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edit your comments.php or single.php and change the</p>
<blockquote><p><code>comments_rss_link( 'feed' )</code></p></blockquote>
<p>to</p>
<blockquote><p><code>&lt;a rel='nofollow' href='&lt;?php echo get_post_comments_feed_link() ?&gt;'&gt;feed&lt;/a&gt;</code></p></blockquote>
<p>The text ‘feed’ can be whatever you desire of course.</p>
<p>Hint &#8211; if there&#8217;s a WP template tag that prints something, then chances are there&#8217;s a get_* function that gets that value first <img src='http://www.redcardinal.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1703</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Donncha

What does get_post_comments_feed_link() do? And does this function need to be updated to include a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; attribute?

TBH you could actually give these links a rel=&quot;noindex&quot; so that the bots would still crawl your RSS feeds, just never actually index them. It&#039;s a bit of a toss-up though.

Cheers for contributing.
Rgds
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Donncha</p>
<p>What does get_post_comments_feed_link() do? And does this function need to be updated to include a rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221; attribute?</p>
<p>TBH you could actually give these links a rel=&#8221;noindex&#8221; so that the bots would still crawl your RSS feeds, just never actually index them. It&#8217;s a bit of a toss-up though.</p>
<p>Cheers for contributing.<br />
Rgds<br />
Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Donncha O Caoimh</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1700</link>
		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost forgot, instead of modifying a core WP file, change your theme to call get_post_comments_feed_link() instead of comments_rss_link().

Next time you upgrade WordPress you won&#039;t have to worry about losing your valuable custom changes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost forgot, instead of modifying a core WP file, change your theme to call get_post_comments_feed_link() instead of comments_rss_link().</p>
<p>Next time you upgrade WordPress you won&#8217;t have to worry about losing your valuable custom changes!</p>
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		<title>By: Donncha O Caoimh</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1699</link>
		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should nofollow your trackback links too. I hadn&#039;t thought of this and I had use robots.txt to disallow access to those URLs.
On the other hand, read through http://www.seorefugee.com/seoblog/2007/06/04/john-chow-creates-seo-experts/ to cast some doubt on the benefits of excluding these pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should nofollow your trackback links too. I hadn&#8217;t thought of this and I had use robots.txt to disallow access to those URLs.<br />
On the other hand, read through <a href="http://www.seorefugee.com/seoblog/2007/06/04/john-chow-creates-seo-experts/">http://www.seorefugee.com/seoblog/2007/06/04/john-chow-creates-seo-experts/</a> to cast some doubt on the benefits of excluding these pages.</p>
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		<title>By: frankp</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1711</link>
		<dc:creator>frankp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hats off Richard,
Look forward to reading that post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hats off Richard,<br />
Look forward to reading that post!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1716</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 08:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michele

I actually dug into the Wordpress Codex and have a fix for the .htaccess problem - extremely simple.

I have a post queued that explains it.

Rgds
Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michele</p>
<p>I actually dug into the Wordpress Codex and have a fix for the .htaccess problem &#8211; extremely simple.</p>
<p>I have a post queued that explains it.</p>
<p>Rgds<br />
Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1710</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard

If you change the permissions on the .htaccess so that Apache can&#039;t write to it your problems will go away :)

Michele

PS: Nice article :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard</p>
<p>If you change the permissions on the .htaccess so that Apache can&#8217;t write to it your problems will go away <img src='http://www.redcardinal.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Michele</p>
<p>PS: Nice article <img src='http://www.redcardinal.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hearne</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1715</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martina - hi and thanks.

@Frank - would you believe that I only re-uploaded my .htaccess file yesterday and the bloody thing has been overwritten today. I&#039;m gonna find what it is that is rewriting the file if it&#039;s the last thing I do [today :)]. Hope there is something of value to you above.

Rgds to both
Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martina &#8211; hi and thanks.</p>
<p>@Frank &#8211; would you believe that I only re-uploaded my .htaccess file yesterday and the bloody thing has been overwritten today. I&#8217;m gonna find what it is that is rewriting the file if it&#8217;s the last thing I do [today <img src='http://www.redcardinal.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ]. Hope there is something of value to you above.</p>
<p>Rgds to both<br />
Richard</p>
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		<title>By: frankp</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1714</link>
		<dc:creator>frankp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps I never really got to the bottom of why Wp rewrited the htaccess file, but I did discover a plugin that looks after the canonical issue, it resolves to a no www:
http://photomatt.net/2006/06/13/wordpress-no-www/

I think this would probably resolve any issues, but I don&#039;t think I have tried it on a site experiencin the issue yet - I really wanted to figure out what was causing WP to rewrite the file when it really shouldn&#039;t be, but after a certain amount of investigation I got confounded by it!

On BifSniff the htaccess file is simply not writable so it never had that issue, I update the htaccess file by hand. But as you know I have had the issue of WP rewriting the htaccess file on other sites!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps I never really got to the bottom of why Wp rewrited the htaccess file, but I did discover a plugin that looks after the canonical issue, it resolves to a no www:<br />
<a href="http://photomatt.net/2006/06/13/wordpress-no-www/">http://photomatt.net/2006/06/13/wordpress-no-www/</a></p>
<p>I think this would probably resolve any issues, but I don&#8217;t think I have tried it on a site experiencin the issue yet &#8211; I really wanted to figure out what was causing WP to rewrite the file when it really shouldn&#8217;t be, but after a certain amount of investigation I got confounded by it!</p>
<p>On BifSniff the htaccess file is simply not writable so it never had that issue, I update the htaccess file by hand. But as you know I have had the issue of WP rewriting the htaccess file on other sites!</p>
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		<title>By: frankp</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>frankp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Richard,
that&#039;s a very good point about the Secret Page, and also the Authors page, both password protected. Now, I must find out how to add no-follow to specific pages withing WordPress :D

It might be an interesting experiment to exclude the comment feeds from being indexed and see what impact it might have.

Thanks again for taking this time to go through the site, much appreciated. It&#039;s always good to have fresh eyes on something!

Particularly appreciated as I realise how busy you&#039;ve been of late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Richard,<br />
that&#8217;s a very good point about the Secret Page, and also the Authors page, both password protected. Now, I must find out how to add no-follow to specific pages withing WordPress <img src='http://www.redcardinal.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It might be an interesting experiment to exclude the comment feeds from being indexed and see what impact it might have.</p>
<p>Thanks again for taking this time to go through the site, much appreciated. It&#8217;s always good to have fresh eyes on something!</p>
<p>Particularly appreciated as I realise how busy you&#8217;ve been of late!</p>
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		<title>By: Martina Skelly</title>
		<link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/blogs/07-06-2007/google-pagerank-supplemental-index/#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>Martina Skelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great article Richard!

Regards,
Martina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great article Richard!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Martina</p>
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