Comments on: How To Smother Your Prospects and Kill Your Leads http://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/ Search Engine Optimisation Ireland Sun, 29 Mar 2015 11:08:12 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-8845 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:49:45 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-8845 Hi Deirdre

Great to get an insider commenting. You make some great points, and I’d love to get your ideas on a few of my responses:
1. “…online companies do provide customers with extremely lengthy forms, however such questions are absolutely essential if you want to get the correct quotation.” – hopefully my post makes clear that online psychology is quite different to offline. If I call you it’s more difficult for me to bail from a human interaction, but if I go online I don’t give a hoot about your server being offended if I “put down the phone”. The basic premise of my post is that insurance companies have to learn how people “think” online. Would you not agree that FBD had a far more appealing funnel than either of the other 2 subject sites?
2. “Insurance should not be purchased only based on the cost but on the quality of the policy.” – IMO the insurance industry as a whole makes every effort to obfuscate cover terms in extremely long-winded T&Cs. Consumers are not likely to read these, so how do you think the insurance industry could help with more consumer-friendly documentation?
3. “When you purchase insurance online you have very little standing if there is a claim.” – are you suggesting that products sold online are purposely contrived to offer less cover? I do value the service offered by brokers, but I also imagine that unless you have a lawyer read through the T&Cs of any policy there’s every chance your coverage is less than expected whether purchased online or off (this also comes back to crazy T&Cs for consumer products).

Thanks for commenting – I absolutely appreciate the views of someone looking out.
Rgds
Richard

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By: Deirdrehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-8818 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:37:57 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-8818 As an insurance executive I must stress that online companies do provide customers with extremely lengthy forms, however such questions are absolutely essential if you want to get the correct quotation. Insurance should not be purchased only based on the cost but on the quality of the policy. A lot of people seem to forget this. When you purchase insurance online you have very little standing if there is a claim. This is when you most need your insurance and a lot of online customers find themselves being told by the uninterested call centre workers that they do not have the correct cover and wont receive any compensation.
I suggest that people do not disregard the idea of going to a broker, they deal with all insurance companies and in the event of a claim they will fight on your behalf to get you the correct amount of compensation. You will be provided with the best insurance to suit your needs and if you have any questions you can deal with a person face to face, not someone in a call centre who doesnt know the first thing about insurance.

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By: Sanovnikhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-8393 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:08:45 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-8393 Lol. Great post. We could only imagine what would out there if planes were cheaper, and more available. Especially after 9/11. It would take 3 days to request a quote :)

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By: Gregorhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-8338 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:45:08 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-8338 Yikes, that’s a scary looking form. And there are 4 more pages to it! When you see the form in its entirety like you’ve shown it, it really is clear that they’re doing something wrong.

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By: Pibasure.ie Caught Buying “Car Insurance” - Red Cardinalhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-6074 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:31:22 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-6074 [...] Apart from the fact that they could have moved a bit more quietly? I’ve written about conversion optimisation in the insurance niche and car insurance area a few times [...]

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-6010 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:03:35 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-6010 Hi Sam

Thanks for dropping by and commenting. I think we’re both in agreement that a lot of companies still don’t “get” the web. But that’s actually good news as it means there’s still plenty of opportunity out there.

Rgds
Richard

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By: Sam Deekshttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-5587 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:25:55 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-5587 Heh heh – a usability critic after my own heart. Great to see someone else coming at it this way. Totally agree. I can’t believe the number of businesses that simply can’t see the burden of effort they demand of their prospects…

I’m like you; I get to about step two of these things and bail. But I don’t just bail, I bail muttering “F**k off, you stupid XYZ company…”.

It’s bad enough losing the prospect, but sending them off cursing you is infinitely worse again. :-)

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-5213 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:42:00 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-5213 Hiya Dave

Good to see you last week, and just a shame we didn’t get time to shoot the breeze. I’ve chatted with quite a couple of companies in this space, and the one theme I see throughout is an old-school marketing mentality – fitting the square peg into the round hole.

Q. How many insurance sites run blogs?
Q. How many update their web content?
Q. How many build content around users?
Q. How many are using the web to build interactions, e.g. twitter and web out-reach?
Q. How many have user-centric design philosophy?

List goes on, and FBD are the example I use of a company that’s progressive with their online marketing strategy.

Hopefully catch you again soon.
Rgds
Richard

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By: David Behanhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-5197 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:17:30 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-5197 I moved to FBD 2 months ago for exactly this reason. I hate filling out loads and loads of forms just to get a quote. There no frills approach is the way forward and I’m surprised others have not caught onto it yet.

Good post! :D

Dave

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-5192 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:41:26 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-5192 Hi Tony

Sorry – I had to pull your comment out of Akismet queue :(
The workflow for FBD, even beyond the ballpark quote is very light weight. I managed to get my full quote without entering half of the info required by the AA. And their workflow was absolutely built around me, not their marketing and quote systems.

I called the AA this morning, and they collected nearly as much on the phone. They wanted my current provider info to generate the quote. How that could be required, other than for them to vary the premium I cant tell.

But the main point I’m trying to make here is that you, as an insurance website, have to give me, as a potential client, enough perceived benefit to justify my commitment. The more barriers you put in front of me (longer form, more steps, no quote before giving my life details) the more benefit you have to offer me. FBD seem to have cracked this by keeping their quote engine light, and offering me a teaser quote very early on to keep my interest. The AA killed me long before I even got the quote.

Thanks for dropping by, and hope all is well with your employer,
Rgds
Richard

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-5185 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:33:11 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-5185 Hi Adrian

Thanks for your comment. I’m in total agreement with you re FBD – they seem to have a user-centric design process which works well, and I’m fairly sure reaps dividends for them.

Thanks for dropping by, rgds
Richard

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By: Adrian Smithhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-5182 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:27:53 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-5182 So true. It’s obvious that these websites (AA, Quinn, etc) are developed with the company’s internal business process in mind rather than the customer. I’ve also found FBD and another of their sites http://www.nononsense.ie/ refreshingly easy to use.

As as aside, when I’m shopping around for car insurance I never give my correct personal details to these websites. I use bogus a name, dob and address (although the dob and address will be close to my own so the underwriting isn’t adversely effected). It’s my way of protesting at the amount of personal information these companies require just to give you a quick quote.

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By: Tony Byrnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/conversion-optimisation/31-08-2009/how-to-smother-your-prospects-and-kill-your-leads/#comment-5177 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:33:58 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1042#comment-5177 Hi Richard,

Great post!

I work for an online insurance broker and we’re very familiar with the issues that you raise.

Everything you say about putting users off is true. However, one of the challenges to designing a good quote workflow is that insurers require detailed information about the risk before they can provide an _accurate_ quote that they can stand over.

Despite initial appearances, even FBD needs to gather this detailed information. The first FBD quote that you see, based on only a few fields, is a ‘ball park’ figure. For an accurate quote, which let’s face it is what everyone customer wants when seeking the best deal, you need to provide more information in subsequent steps – the final quote will likely not be what you were quoted initially. Also, after you’ve invested the time to provide the necessary detail, the system can decide to take the quote ‘offline’ by requesting that you call FBD to discuss your needs.

While I agree that there’s a lot that can be done to prevent putting the customer off, there are limits to what can be done with an insurance quotation site. There will always be a compromise between the level of detail required to get a quote and accuracy of the quote. FBD have done a better job than most, but you’d have to question the usefulness of a quote that will most likely change once the full information is known.

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