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> <channel><title>Comments on: Pibasure.ie Looking for a Google Slap?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/</link> <description>Search Engine Optimisation Ireland</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:35:07 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator> <atom:link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" /> <atom:link rel="hub" href="http://superfeedr.com/hubbub" /> <item><title>By: Jon Dunn</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-15385</link> <dc:creator>Jon Dunn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 10:52:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-15385</guid> <description>I&#039;d have to say I&#039;m 110% in Richard&#039;s camp when it comes to the idea of &quot;creating great content and promoting it&quot; as the way forward. After working in this field for a while not only does it seem to be the most reliable way to get results, but it is also increasingly less difficult than all other methods of gaming the system.Not to turn this into a &#039;black hat SEO&#039; versus&#039; white hat SEO&#039; argument, but won&#039;t it, in the long run, be cheaper to have spent your SEO money on filling your site with relevant and long-tail content than swimming against the current, and investing in short-cuts the big G will eventually figure out and give you negative ranking for? How long do you think it will take the guys in Mountain View to figure out the domain buying game? Heck, I&#039;d be surprised if they haven&#039;t already and have plans in place to drop the hammer on offenders. I&#039;d hate to be the SEO rep handling client emails the week G puts the smack down on folks who shelled out big money on expired domains!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say I&#8217;m 110% in Richard&#8217;s camp when it comes to the idea of &#8220;creating great content and promoting it&#8221; as the way forward. After working in this field for a while not only does it seem to be the most reliable way to get results, but it is also increasingly less difficult than all other methods of gaming the system.</p><p>Not to turn this into a &#8216;black hat SEO&#8217; versus&#8217; white hat SEO&#8217; argument, but won&#8217;t it, in the long run, be cheaper to have spent your SEO money on filling your site with relevant and long-tail content than swimming against the current, and investing in short-cuts the big G will eventually figure out and give you negative ranking for? How long do you think it will take the guys in Mountain View to figure out the domain buying game? Heck, I&#8217;d be surprised if they haven&#8217;t already and have plans in place to drop the hammer on offenders. I&#8217;d hate to be the SEO rep handling client emails the week G puts the smack down on folks who shelled out big money on expired domains!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SJL Web Design</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-8455</link> <dc:creator>SJL Web Design</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:03:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-8455</guid> <description>Hi Richard,Great article and thanks for recommending me to Kieran and Leo&#039;s blogs, some great content on both sites.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard,</p><p>Great article and thanks for recommending me to Kieran and Leo&#8217;s blogs, some great content on both sites.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard Hearne</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6654</link> <dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:00:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6654</guid> <description>Thanks AlanChecking it out now - looks like you guys focus more on paid side, but no harm in reading that also :)Rgds
Richard</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alan</p><p>Checking it out now &#8211; looks like you guys focus more on paid side, but no harm in reading that also <img
src='http://d3ohi9reiehxab.cloudfront.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Rgds<br
/> Richard</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alan Coleman</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6653</link> <dc:creator>Alan Coleman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:47:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6653</guid> <description>Hi Richard,If you are looking for new Irish guys blogging you could give my www.onlineadvertising.ie/blog a gander. It&#039;s newish so still a bit raw. Any suggestions or feedback you may have would be mucho appreciated.al</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard,</p><p>If you are looking for new Irish guys blogging you could give my <a
href="http://www.onlineadvertising.ie/blog">www.onlineadvertising.ie/blog</a> a gander. It&#8217;s newish so still a bit raw. Any suggestions or feedback you may have would be mucho appreciated.</p><p>al</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Leo Fogarty</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6295</link> <dc:creator>Leo Fogarty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:47:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6295</guid> <description>Cheers for the shout Richard, it was great to meet you at BTW.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for the shout Richard, it was great to meet you at BTW.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RIcardo</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6189</link> <dc:creator>RIcardo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:01:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6189</guid> <description>Aha - that makes much more sense.Thanks for the feedback / clarification.Ricardo</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha &#8211; that makes much more sense.</p><p>Thanks for the feedback / clarification.</p><p>Ricardo</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard Hearne</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6178</link> <dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:08:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6178</guid> <description>Hey RicardoI doubt I&#039;d ever spend thousands of $ on an article per-se. I&#039;m really referring to the creation of some top-notch content, perhaps based on research of some description. So the majority of the spend would be related to the collection and analysis of data. Another alternative, and often less expensive, is link-bait based on interesting content from around the web. I know a couple of guys who do this full-time and produce some really link-worthy content.Rgds
Richard</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ricardo</p><p>I doubt I&#8217;d ever spend thousands of $ on an article per-se. I&#8217;m really referring to the creation of some top-notch content, perhaps based on research of some description. So the majority of the spend would be related to the collection and analysis of data. Another alternative, and often less expensive, is link-bait based on interesting content from around the web. I know a couple of guys who do this full-time and produce some really link-worthy content.</p><p>Rgds<br
/> Richard</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ricardo</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6157</link> <dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:00:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6157</guid> <description>My Goodness - a few K for an article - for that I&#039;d expect the darn thing to jump out of the screen, grab you by the neck and shout &quot;LINK TO ME OR ELSE, BUD!!!&quot; :-)But if you&#039;ve got the dough, I see how it would be worth it.Thanks for the tip(s).Ricardo</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Goodness &#8211; a few K for an article &#8211; for that I&#8217;d expect the darn thing to jump out of the screen, grab you by the neck and shout &#8220;LINK TO ME OR ELSE, BUD!!!&#8221; <img
src='http://d3ohi9reiehxab.cloudfront.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>But if you&#8217;ve got the dough, I see how it would be worth it.</p><p>Thanks for the tip(s).</p><p>Ricardo</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: searchbrat</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6130</link> <dc:creator>searchbrat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:17:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6130</guid> <description>Thanks for the info Richard and Cormac.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Richard and Cormac.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard Hearne</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6121</link> <dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:15:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6121</guid> <description>@Kieran - sorry about non-live link. No idea why WP no longer linkifies URLs.Fixed now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kieran &#8211; sorry about non-live link. No idea why WP no longer linkifies URLs.</p><p>Fixed now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard Hearne</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6119</link> <dc:creator>Richard Hearne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:14:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6119</guid> <description>@Kieran - you also have to look at page relevance, as I&#039;m pretty sure Google now pass relevance from page factors through links. So even from unrelated sites, but from related pages, you can get very good links. Google didn&#039;t have insight into many of the managed registries, and you could pick up dropped domains and get them ranking very well. I think they&#039;ve closed this up greatly now (they used not reset .ie domains after dropping, but now do - I know this because I picked up lots of .ie domains in the past that had previously been govt. related).@Ricardo - maybe I&#039;ve become lazy, but I really think creating great content and promoting it is the way forward. I think Rand put it well about spending a few thousand $ on some reat content that gets 100 links. That&#039;s the way to go, and it doesn&#039;t always need to be a few thousand $. The post I did in 2006 about AOL data still get&#039;s links weekly, and I&#039;d say it&#039;s received hundreds of high quality links over time. It cost nothing but my time. Granted opps like that don&#039;t come along every day, but I&#039;d still look for industry-related opportunities like that if I were you.@Cormac - thanks for commenting.Rgds to all
Richard</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kieran &#8211; you also have to look at page relevance, as I&#8217;m pretty sure Google now pass relevance from page factors through links. So even from unrelated sites, but from related pages, you can get very good links. Google didn&#8217;t have insight into many of the managed registries, and you could pick up dropped domains and get them ranking very well. I think they&#8217;ve closed this up greatly now (they used not reset .ie domains after dropping, but now do &#8211; I know this because I picked up lots of .ie domains in the past that had previously been govt. related).</p><p>@Ricardo &#8211; maybe I&#8217;ve become lazy, but I really think creating great content and promoting it is the way forward. I think Rand put it well about spending a few thousand $ on some reat content that gets 100 links. That&#8217;s the way to go, and it doesn&#8217;t always need to be a few thousand $. The post I did in 2006 about AOL data still get&#8217;s links weekly, and I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s received hundreds of high quality links over time. It cost nothing but my time. Granted opps like that don&#8217;t come along every day, but I&#8217;d still look for industry-related opportunities like that if I were you.</p><p>@Cormac &#8211; thanks for commenting.</p><p>Rgds to all<br
/> Richard</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cormac</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6095</link> <dc:creator>Cormac</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:47:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6095</guid> <description>Kieran, there are a number of lists available to buy that feature soon to expire domains. There are a few specialist forums out there about this but I think Acorn are the best.  http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieran, there are a number of lists available to buy that feature soon to expire domains. There are a few specialist forums out there about this but I think Acorn are the best. <a
href="http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/">http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ricardo</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6085</link> <dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:30:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6085</guid> <description>Hi Richard,Interesting article once again.Got me thinking of SEOMoz’s recent article on paid links.
http://www.seomoz.org/blog/our-stance-on-paid-links-link-adsWhat I understood from it (the SEOMoz one) is that paid links was, once upon a time, an actual strategy used in SEO? i.e. something done, then clamped down on by G – and, hence, the clamp-down as well by SEO professionals.It seems many companies (e.g. the insurance industry which you mention here and in other posts) are still using this “strategy”.What would you recommend as a basic link building strategy for small to medium businesses? (Not asking for any trade secrets here!  – just a basic idea of what a small / medium sized business could / should do to build incoming links).Kind Regards,
Ricardo</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard,</p><p>Interesting article once again.</p><p>Got me thinking of SEOMoz’s recent article on paid links.<br
/> <a
href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/our-stance-on-paid-links-link-ads">http://www.seomoz.org/blog/our-stance-on-paid-links-link-ads</a></p><p>What I understood from it (the SEOMoz one) is that paid links was, once upon a time, an actual strategy used in SEO? i.e. something done, then clamped down on by G – and, hence, the clamp-down as well by SEO professionals.</p><p>It seems many companies (e.g. the insurance industry which you mention here and in other posts) are still using this “strategy”.</p><p>What would you recommend as a basic link building strategy for small to medium businesses? (Not asking for any trade secrets here!  – just a basic idea of what a small / medium sized business could / should do to build incoming links).</p><p>Kind Regards,<br
/> Ricardo</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: searchbrat</title><link>http://www.redcardinal.ie/link-building/18-09-2009/pibasure-ie-looking-for-a-google-slap/#comment-6080</link> <dc:creator>searchbrat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:10:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1071#comment-6080</guid> <description>Cheers Richard, appreciate the shout out.It&#039;s interesting how well you can rise up the SERP&#039;s just by having high PR links from totally unrelated sites. I am not too sure about the whole on theme links. As I said in the blog post, I have tested this on a couple of sites and ranked for a competitive keyword with totally unrelated (and spammy) links, before getting penalized for that keyword. Over optimisation of back links I think.I would love to know how those sites are acquired (4ps.co.uk), are they just pinged when a domain is about to expire ?. I can&#039;t see a local council selling off their site or who knows, maybe they need to during these recessionary times :)Leo&#039;s blog is great, nice to read from other people in Ireland on these topics.Thanks</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Richard, appreciate the shout out.</p><p>It&#8217;s interesting how well you can rise up the SERP&#8217;s just by having high PR links from totally unrelated sites. I am not too sure about the whole on theme links. As I said in the blog post, I have tested this on a couple of sites and ranked for a competitive keyword with totally unrelated (and spammy) links, before getting penalized for that keyword. Over optimisation of back links I think.</p><p>I would love to know how those sites are acquired (4ps.co.uk), are they just pinged when a domain is about to expire ?. I can&#8217;t see a local council selling off their site or who knows, maybe they need to during these recessionary times <img
src='http://d3ohi9reiehxab.cloudfront.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Leo&#8217;s blog is great, nice to read from other people in Ireland on these topics.</p><p>Thanks</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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