Comments on: Irish Travel Websites Leaving Money On The Table http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/ Search Engine Optimisation Ireland Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:03:56 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: Get Foundhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-27233 Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:48:05 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-27233 I totally agree with you, travel companies out there are missing out on so much low hanging fruit. The lack of email contact details is however not just an Irish phenomenon. I come across this nearly everyday when accessing hotel & travel websites in Spain & Italy. They seem determined to hide their details from potential clients.

To me User Generated Content seems like a no brainer, but I suppose these ideas take time to percolate up to the top. Their loss.

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By: CarHirePhuket.comhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-26995 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:48:56 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-26995 I think a lot of this holds across the travel niche. Working in hire cars I see a lot of websites where site architecture are poorly thought out. The meeting point between developers and business always seems to be fractious.

Good post, and some points worth thinking about for any site regardless of niche.

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By: Daniel Bhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-26765 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 04:25:31 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-26765 Great article Richard, very big industry in Ireland now.

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By: Daniel Caceirohttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-19435 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:47:04 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-19435 Brazilian Websites are also with the same problems.
Don’t know for sure for irish market, but mostly SEO here is just starting.

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By: Shawn McConnellhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-18608 Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:55:41 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-18608 Don’t forget that to make sure that you are working on what brings you money in, if not then your leaving money on the table Richard,

I would put my sites first before my blog, Great post, i think if you got away from the travel niche even for a month and come back you’ll have a fresh perspective and see even more opportunities to capitalize on,

Shawn,

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By: Ebby Murphyhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-18338 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:46:58 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-18338 Hi
First time read your blog. Some content is really awesome my company is related to traveling so it’s really helpful for me.I have started the feedback campaign for my clients and it is helping a lot. The kind of comments and review which I get are some time bad and some time motivating. It’s helping my business and me to understand the requirement of clients.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-17470 Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:49:58 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-17470 Hi Mick

I do have quite a bit of data, but I’ve been woefully inadequate here on my own blog :( Hopefully I can get back to blogging again soon, and I’ll also find a vehicle for publishing some testing results.

I think I’ll also look for some new sites for free testing in the coming weeks also to build some new data.

Will update here when I have some more info :)
Thanks for dropping by, rgds,
Richard

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By: Mickhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-17226 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:40:57 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-17226 ie the Conversion Rate Optimisation Testing

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By: Mickhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-17225 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:34:16 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-17225 Hi Richard, off topic but what ever happened to the sites you picked for free research / traffic development some time back ?.
Are there any case studies on your site anywhere ?.
Have been checking back for ages to find out how the sites got on.
Mick

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By: SJL Web Designhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-14617 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:22:28 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-14617 Great article Richard, one of my favourites yet!

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By: Conor O'Neillhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-13100 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:59:53 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-13100 The latest info I’ve read is that they are aiming for auto-discovery but you can let them know about your site for consideration.

We only turned on aggregate support for clients this morning (we’ve had individual hreview on the consumer site since 2007) and I’ve just applied to have reviews of ourselves considered so let’s see if/when it happens.

We’ll be recommending that all of our clients who can use Rich Snippets (PHP only at the minute but .NET and others coming soon) apply too.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-13097 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:24:54 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-13097 @Conor and Kieran – do you still have to apply to get a site into that program? I know previously Google only accepted sites after human review, and that it took some time. The process has speeded up the last I heard, but is still in place. Can either of you confirm that?

Rgds
Richard

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By: searchbrathttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-13095 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:53:46 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-13095 I have just started to work on rich snippets (price range + time sensitive events). At the moment google don’t guarantee they will show it. From examples I have seen, it’s always large sites like Yelp that are shown. I am sure they will support it across the board soon.
Rich snippets really do enhance the SERPs, but the SERPs have come a long way from the simple free listing. They are more and more resembling a human reviewed directory with social links thrown in.
Definitely worth measuring CTR of rich snippets entries in Google Webmaster tools. I am trying to use Google Analytics intelligence alerts, but pretty difficult as positions fluctuate so much on Google at the moment.

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By: Conor O'Neillhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-13088 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:05:03 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-13088 Thanks for the recommendation Richard.

We have just rolled out Google Rich-Snippet support for some of our clients so that their on-site reviews will appear in a much richer form in Google’s results.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-13086 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:52:27 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-13086 @Cathal – good luck with your site.

@Stephen – delighted you found this. Well done on what you’ve achieved. It certainly gives you a competitive edge to be generating so much free traffic. If you do look at reviews you might want to get in touch with Conor who commented above. Loudervoice has a very effective and cost-friendly service.

Thanks to all for commenting.

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By: Stephen Mc Kenna (Marketing director Gohop.ie)http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-12980 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:59:09 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-12980 Sorry One point I meant to clarify is the following. The reason that most travel companies do not put on email addresses everywhere is my guess based on our following experience.

Booking ratios
Email to book ratio approx 20 to 1.
Phone to book ratio 6 : 1

During our office opening hours we try to drive business via the phones and then represent the email address for bookings after normal trading hours. We also have online bookability of flights/hotels/car rental and late holidays online with specialist travel information posted online to drive ideas to help people who are planning something a little bit more tailormade that required contact with a destination specialist.

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By: Stephen Mc Kenna (Marketing director Gohop.ie)http://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-12977 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:53:05 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-12977 Richard congratulations on a very well written article and on behalf of Gohop.ie I would like to thank you for the positive feedback in relation to our concentration/sucess to a small degree in SEO. We put a lot of work into search engine optimisation and in general trying to create a website that is useful albeit with limited resources. More importantly our focus is on the client and we have a team of travel consultants who are here on hand to offer personal advice based on their experience and help people plan their holiday. A hybrid model so to speak click and bricks. On SEO we do manage our SEO/Pay per click campaigns in-house but we do engage with consultants who advise us as needed.

As always there is a huge amount of work to be done to compete and thrive in the online marketplace. We have been going for 10 years now and have a competent team of professionals who enjoy what they do and that is sharing their travel experience with people looking to travel abroad. It is vital that in the current environment people take a break away if they can afford it and we would appreciate the opportunity of helping you have a memorable holiday abroad. We do however need to share this experience better on our website http://www.gohop.ie but we are continually working to improve this.

Budget travels demise was a sad day for myself and many others as this was once a very colourful and interesting brand with whom many of us grew up.

The points in your article and the comments which follow will be consided in reviewing our online strategy. We do engage with customers after they have travelled to make sure they have had a nice experience and we take their thoughts onboard. In relation to customer reviews of properties we should look to integrate with tripadvisor or others as we need that breadth of content however the commercial realities of that is a considerable cost in itself. We must however rise to that challenge and exceed the customer expectation and that is what we will do.

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By: Cathalhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-12192 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:09:04 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-12192 Very Interesting article Richard. I have just started doing the online marketing for our own travel website.

Thanks

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By: Conor O'Neillhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-9091 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:09:05 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-9091 I think we’re in agreement Dan. My concern was for those who outsource everything and are not engaged with it at all. Companies should always work with the best in each field but they need to know what is going on.

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By: Danhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-9059 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:37:52 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-9059 @Conor They need to cop on quick or they run the risk of being left behind and possibly going out of business. I think hotels should have an independent onsite comments page where they can interact with their guests after their stay and develop an open live forum promoting their customer service and using this to set themselves apart from their competitors. People are now very much infleunced by people and are sceptical of Star ratings etc. If your business is as the star rating states then you wont have a problem. However if you are just at that level when an inspector comes to your hotel and the standard dips below that rating post visit, then the hotel is falsly operating and disapointing guests. However if this standard is being maintained at the best of times an open forum will just enhance the brand and in the long term bring in more business.

I think traditional marketers still play a pivitol role in developing an overall plan for a business. I think they need to employ an Internet marketer to assist with the implementation of digital marketing and engage with the digital marketer whether inhouse or outhouse on a weekly basis and follow up on progress etc. Its a new ring of the business and is quickly becoming a primary part of the overall marketing process.

I disagree with inhouse v’s outhouse. I believe with the right management in place and the correct follow up procedures a good outhouse internet marketer can have as much impact as an inhouse marketer and generally at a fraction of the cost. My arguement would be that an outhouse marketer is doing this across many industries and can see new opportunities quicker than an in house marketer who is blinkered to working with the business in hand.

Ity is difficult to find a digital marketer employee who is profecient in SEO, PPC, Digital Ads,Trafficking, Copywriting for the web etc. However employing a decent marketing firm who have individuals in place that are specialists in each of these fields can benefit a company hugely as you get the expertise of all these individauls in one package. Its up to the Marketing manager to communicate with the Internet Marketing firm and ask as many questions and understand exactly what they are doing for them.

There are many small web designers who claim to be Search Engine Specialists and charge a monthly fee for something they know nothing about. They are just costing businesses money and really damaging the digital marketing world.

If I could give one piece of advice, to a hotel that contracts it Internet marketing outhouse, I would recommend asking for weekly or at least monthly progress reports that highlight areas the firm is working on, progress from the previous week/month and a plan of what is to be achieved by the next month -Objectives and Goals. Then you will know they are working with you and delivering the goods.

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By: Conor O'Neillhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-9047 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:03:04 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-9047 @Dan One of the big problems for traditional brands is that they are taking advice from the wrong people. Most traditional marketing agencies in Ireland are either clueless or petrified of two-way marketing.

I spoke at the Hotel Website Marketing event last week (about reviews of course) and was very interested to get a feel for hotels’ thinking on everything social on the web. The overall sense is that most understand it is happening, know they need to work with it instead of against it, but feel they don’t know enough to do it with confidence.

For many, 2010 wil be the year they really try to engage actively with their customers online.

I met a hotel yesterday and asked if they did email marketing. They said no. I asked if they sent emails to their customers. Oh sure all the time :-)

I think the ones who have the biggest problem are those who have decided to offload everything “online” to external agencies and stick their head in the sand. In contrast, the ones who now have dedicated e-comm or e-marketing in-house will do the best and you can even see that now with those companies weathering the recession better.

Amazingly there is still a hard core who think they can put the genie back in the bottle. One person at the event asked how they could get their hotel taken off TripAdvisor! The old school approach to bad reviews – kill the reviews, don’t fix your service.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-9032 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:33:39 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-9032 @Dave – I think many of the problems go far beyond the online channel TBH. Most had a serious cost base, and the main reason many are going out of business is cashflow problems.

@Dan – I’ve spoken to some people in this space now, and I think you’re right. There’s a whole lot of anxiety around customer reviews (“can of worms” was used) as often the agencies don’t actually know how good/bad their own inventory is.

Rgds to both
Richard

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By: Danhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8992 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:38:59 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8992 I reckon the Irish agents are afraid of reviews and dont know how to manage web 2.0 . Its a completely different business from the traditional brochure type stand or glossy pictures that was prevelant in 1st generation websites. My advice would be to dump the call centres and shops and concentrate on the web where the market is. Its hard to believe that a market leader like Budget didnt get advice on this area and develop a plan to implement it. It would have been a small fraction of their turnover to implement this. They had sales of over 160million euros in 2007.

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By: Dave Davishttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8990 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:18:19 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8990 Looks like there’s to be a lot less competition in the space with all the liquidations. I wonder were they doomed from the get go or would some proper advice like this have kept them afloat. (Specifically budget).

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By: Prasadhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8839 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:47:31 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8839 Hi Richard

Excellent post. In fact I suggest you should reach out to these agencies, try getting them online and take a percentage of their profits from the online sales channel :). If none of them are using the online channel, there’s a serious first mover advantage in the offing – wish I was there :)

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8779 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:11:18 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8779 Hi SEO Dublin

Forgive me, but I generally nofollow targeted signature links, but to in your case I’ve edited your signature instead. It is sad indeed that Budget shut down.

It might be useful if you added some personal details to your site – it looks a little anonymous right now ;)

Rgds and thanks for commenting
Richard

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By: Anonhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8664 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:43:48 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8664 Read this article the other day and it so weird that a few days later Budget Travel are closing their doors.

Wonder if they embraced the technology as you mentioned would this still be the case.

Sad Day for the travel business and the people that have lost their jobs.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8397 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:02:05 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8397 @Conor – I think tools like yours open up a lot of possibilities to travel sites who really cant afford to build/implement themselves. Looking forward to seeing newer integration that is SEO-friendly also :)

@Gita – I think we’re quite behind in Ireland in terms of understanding the true benefits of the web. Many traditional industries here are made up of small enterprises who often lack the knowledge required to leverage online channels. But the good news is that things are getting better, albeit at a slow clip.

Thanks for commenting
Richard

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By: Gitahttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8391 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:02:48 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8391 Great article Richard. I was struck by this recently when trying to search for charter flights from Ireland. It seems that not only public e-mails are missing, but even search sometimes doesn’t work and sites are so crowded you can’t find what you are looking for. Why do they bother creating websites at all?

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By: Conor O'Neillhttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8361 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:42:48 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8361 Thanks for the kind mention Richard. We recently rolled out LouderVoice on four hotel sites and it was very enlightening talking to their ecommerce people and hearing about the challenges they are facing right now in the hospitality industry.

The big message from them is that they want people talking about them online and they want to facilitate it and learn from the feedback.

If the same thing (a review) also works as a sales tool, marketing tool and SEO tool, then that’s the icing on the cake.

The traditional travel agents need to adjust to the new online realities or they won’t be in business in two years time.

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By: searchbrathttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8333 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:09:23 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8333 Good post Richard. It’s interesting to see GoHop.ie have such good rankings based upon article marketing. I know GoIreland leverage this as well.

In the U.K LateRooms are second to none at SEO. They dominate rankings for everything. Really impressive. Looks as if they utilize their brand authority via internal links to inner pages and sprinkle them with some good links (some of them a little on the boundaries in terms of Google TOS). But still, brilliant at what they do.

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By: Richard Hearnehttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8321 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:30:10 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8321 Very kind words Ricardo.

Thanks for that, rgds
Richard

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By: Ricardohttp://www.redcardinal.ie/search-engine-optimisation/16-11-2009/irish-travel-websites-leaving-money-on-the-table/#comment-8288 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:44:21 +0000 http://www.redcardinal.ie/?p=1136#comment-8288 One of your best articles IMO Richard.

Thank you.

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