Home Services Contact Info

Google Pagerank Export FUD

Posted in: Google by Richard Hearne on October 26, 2007
Internet Marketing Ireland

Quite sure that the exported Toolbar Pagerank we’re seeing now is pure FUD.

Some of the sites I’m working on (and have access to substantial data) have been awarded PR5 with little or no backlinks pointing at them.

In fact one site has inner pages with PR5 but, and here’s the big but, there are no external links pointing at those pages AND all internal links pointing at those same pages are NOFOLLOWED :mrgreen: Figure that one!

If this isn’t a monumental cock up, then I’m 100% confident that Google is lying about the true value of a certain small green bar.

Turn the bloody thing off…

You should subscribe to the RSS Feed here for updates.
Or subscribe to Email Updates now:


  1. True they have been messing around with this for the last month or so. Trying to penalise blogs and what not, it it just a PR (public relations that is) job for google ??

    Comment by paul — October 27, 2007 @ 9:36 am

  2. That’s exactly what TBPR now is for Google – ‘Tool Bar Public Relations’


    Comment by Richard Hearne — October 27, 2007 @ 10:33 am

  3. I have more proof of the BS PR:

    This thread that I started at da point received over 400 natural links including some authority ones:


    This page got a PR3.

    Another thread I started, received hardly any:


    This page got a PR6, anyone who can work that one out is an SEO god.

    Comment by David Eaves — October 27, 2007 @ 5:31 pm

  4. Personally I’d rather if they just turned it off than churn out quite obviously false data.

    Is it just me, or does anyone else sense a huge amount of negativity in the webmaster community toward Google?

    Cheers for dropping by David,

    Comment by Richard Hearne — October 27, 2007 @ 5:46 pm

  5. Well, after my site dropped to PR4 I dropped text link ads, so I guess Google are getting what they want. On the other hand, my traffic hasn’t changed one bit. It’s up slightly in fact!

    Comment by Donncha O Caoimh — October 27, 2007 @ 6:54 pm

  6. YouTube is back to PR8 and their Irish version is now PR6. They are strange examples David, just goes to show that PR is BS.

    Richard : negativity , is probably due to people thinking they deserve higher PR. ;)


    Comment by paul — October 29, 2007 @ 9:59 am

  7. Nope – my site ranks for most of the terms I target. That’s my goal, not the figure showing in a small green bar.

    Negativity is toward the way Google is treating the webmaster community in general, and the SEO community in particular. At a micro level many of the Googlers are fantastically helpful, but at the macro level Google has has lost the plot IMO.

    And what’s the chances that youtube.com got a hand job?


    Comment by Richard Hearne — October 29, 2007 @ 10:15 am

  8. My site has dropped down to PR 4, hasn’t been that in years.
    Also my resources page dropped from PR 5 to PR 0. I noticed redflymarketing is down from 7 to 6 now. Seems something strange is going on anyhow.

    Comment by Dave Callan — October 29, 2007 @ 4:54 pm

  9. thank god I came here, my serp rankings seem to be still in tact and my PR of 4 remains as it has been for quite a long time, even though backlinks and page code etc have been well and truely cleaned up.

    But I did go to a blog I contribute on and was shocked at what I saw a PR of 5, something I have been trying to get for years. The blog is not even a year old has 91 backlinks in Google compared to my 190ish links, I was seriously freaked out. But it seems I am not alone in this confusion thank god.

    Comment by McAWilliams — October 31, 2007 @ 1:44 pm

  10. I agree, turn it off Google. Too many people are caught up in the confusion plus there are SEO folks out there that exploit it to sell their service.

    Would the ‘average’ Google user really miss it?

    Comment by Gavin — November 2, 2007 @ 12:17 am

  11. I also think they should just turn it off, but then you know the whole of DP will be running around like headless chickens! lol And they will next look to Alexa, but that is way to easy to abuse!!

    Comment by Dave Rooney — November 2, 2007 @ 1:34 am

  12. I read a great post recenty about DP being placed on suicide watch. Laughed a lot at that.


    Comment by Richard Hearne — November 2, 2007 @ 8:47 am

  13. @Richard:
    can you post DP link, please?
    Many thanks

    Comment by Romano — November 4, 2007 @ 7:23 am

  14. Romano

    DP Members on Suicide Watch

    Comment by Richard Hearne — November 4, 2007 @ 9:48 am

  15. Thanks got I never got attached to it.
    At one time I was watching it, but then I realise I have better things to do.

    Comment by Louie Eire-WebDesign — November 5, 2007 @ 9:11 pm

  16. Following up from this post, I thought I’d do a poll over at IWF to see what other webmasters thought – would they miss PR, and its a surprising result so far:


    Comment by David Quaid — February 20, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

  17. Hi Richard,

    Out of curiosity, this site with the PR=5 – what is the Page Title or link of this site? would you care to post it?

    Comment by David Quaid — February 20, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

  18. I am surprised by the poll, I know this discussion is a little out of date but even a year ago it was well established how unreliable a system PR is and will always be.

    Any SEO worth their shirt on their back would need to look a little deeper than just PR.

    Comment by Mark Loud — September 8, 2010 @ 4:16 pm

  19. Mark this post was from 2007. 3 years ago.
    What poll are you talking about actually?

    Comment by Richard Hearne — October 19, 2010 @ 12:16 am

Comments Feed TrackBack

Leave a comment